Christian leaders to Obama: Don’t let these wingnuts reduce the welfare state!

Posted: July 24, 2011 by doubleplusundead in Catholicism, Liberal FAIL
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The big guys in this meeting were the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, the National Association of Evangelicals and the Salvation Army.  Jim Wallis, a known lefty evangelical hack, is obviously the point man on this effort.  They brought to him their “Circle of Protection” doctrine (hmmm…sounds very…pagan, NTTAWWT! 😛 ), basically stating that any cuts or changes to federal welfare programs are unacceptable.  So apparently the USCCB, NAE and Salvation Army are opposed to any efforts to reduce bureaucratic and rampant fraudulent waste of funds that could be going to poverty-stricken Americans…seems kinda…I dunno…sinful?

This is yet again one of the reasons I abandoned the Church, Christian charity, at least as guided by the clergy is no longer performing the charity as a church, it’s aiding the federal government in coercing the public to hand that much more money over to the state.

That’s a bridge too far for me, I used to be appalled by the idea of stripping churches of their tax exempt status, but if they want to see the welfare state maintained as it is?  Fine, then they can help pay for it, too.  Democrats?  Here’s your much wanted revenue.

  1. alexthechick says:

    Oh fuck them. I hate hate hate hate haaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee liberation theology. It is neither liberating nor theology. stompystompystompy

  2. veeshir says:

    I remember when they were against the gov’t getting involved because it was going to restrict their freedom.

    I’m most disappointed in the Salvation Army, I’ve respected them the most of that bunch.

  3. I have had….issues with the Catholic Church here. Between preaching “social justice” and cleverly pushing for Obama in the last presidential election, they have become tools for the left. Knowingly, since the Archbishop for this diocese is blatantly marxist.

    I am very surprised that the Salvation Army would join this fucktardic shit. And lately, I have wondered if they tend to bow to their liberal overlords in an attempt to keep that tax exempt status.

  4. Yeah, I’ve been struggling with this myself.

    My family is all Community of Christ (formerly Reorganized Latter-Day Saints), and lately they have gone full-retard on the social justice/social gospel nonsense.

    My cousin, who is a full time youth pastor for the church, recently posted a snarky remark about how the globull warmening deniers aren’t so loud right now. He wasn’t really prepred for the push back, and he thought he was scoring some points with me until I directed him to Watts Up With That, and some of the data buggering being done by those with a strong financial incentive in the fantasy being true.

    Then one of his supporters launched into a “Jesus would be in support of the welfare state” canard, and I dropped the following:

    And as long as they understand that the commands to aid the poor who will always be among us were made to us as individuals, and not to give generously to government, so that it can buy votes…I mean…determine for itself who is and who isn’t a worthy candidate for my largesse, and in what manner they are to be helped, after extracting a not-insignificant handling fee FIRST.

    I’ve read through the Bible many times. I didn’t see where Christ called on the people to give their loaves and fishes to Rome, so that it could multiply and distribute them. Paul didn’t say that charity could be compelled from you and distributed by the government, regardless of what plans you may have for your own money, and I know for a fact that if you believe Jesus, and you trust him, then rendering to Caesar what is MORE than Ceasar’s is foolish, because what and who Caesar may deem worthy of assistance with that boodle may not be the same as what you might deem worthy if you are guided by what you read.

    And the limousine liberals who demand that others should pay higher taxes simply because they can, rather than simply making voluntary additional payments to the Treasury themselves and putting their money where their mouth is remind me a lot of Anninais and Sephiria, only without the consequences. But then, I guess that” do not covet” copmmandment doesn’t apply to other people’s money, right?

    That stopped all discussion on the thread deader than Bob Dole’s chances of being elected President, and although my cousin promised a response, its been 3 days…

  5. jp says:

    I’m not seeing anything in that document that indicates that Blaire signed it on behalf of the entire USCCB.

  6. doubleplusundead says:

    Between their general support of Marxist social policy, support of open borders and amnesty, and their efforts to undermine the 2nd Amendment, I’m done giving the USCCB the benefit of the doubt.

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