Your honor? This is real life, it ain’t the bench

Posted: December 21, 2012 by doubleplusundead in This Is My BOOMSTICK!

So the judge that sentenced Loughner is on the LATimes arguing for magazine and gun bans.  Says the judge, regarding the gun control debate, which the authoritarians have mostly been losing since the AWB fiasco,

But reasonable, good-faith debates have boundaries, and in the debate about guns, a high-capacity magazine has always seemed to me beyond them.

Well fuck-a-doodle-doo, I guess that just settles it! Debate’s over, some fucking judge seems to think that something shouldn’t be up for debate, so debate’s over!  This isn’t the fucking courtroom, you don’t get to dictate the terms of the debate, you stupid twat. Then this,

I get it. Someone bent on mass murder who has only a 10-round magazine or revolvers at his disposal probably is not going to abandon his plan and instead try to talk his problems out. But we might be able to take the “mass” out of “mass shooting,” or at least make the perpetrator’s job a bit harder.

Shows that the judge has no clue about operating a firearm outside of a formal sporting or target environment.  Every fucking time someone starts in on ZOMG IF THEY DIDN’T HAVE…you know either A) They know fuck-all about guns B) They’ve only shot in a hunting/sport capacity, and are fucking clueless as to how quickly most repeating firearms can be operated. C) They’re a fucking Fudd, who has no problem fucking over guys with Glocks, ARs and AKs hoping they’ll be last eaten by the Commie Crocodile. As noted here multiple times…I love revolvers.  As far as guns go, if I won a raffle had a choice between a new Glock or 1911 vs a beat up but mechanically sound S&W Model 10…I’d take the Model 10.  I can also tell you, anyone who thinks that restricting handgun usage to revolvers is going to stop mass killings is fucking deluded, and of course all these fucktards immediately go ZOMG IF HE HAD A REVOLVER INSTEAD…  Real life is not like the 1920’s or every movie and TV show in the history of ever where you’re thumbing in cartridges one at a time…we’ve had these things called speedloaders for decades now.  We’ve also had these things called moon clips since the 1910s.  With a bit of practice, you can get quite fast with speedloaders.  Not as fast as an auto, but damn quick, especially with moon clips, with basic training or practice. I can reload my 686P and 642 with HKS speedloaders reliably under 5 seconds, restricting someone to revolvers is NOT enough to make a difference.  Moon clips are even faster.


Lever rifles and pump shotguns?  Same story, watch cowboy action shooters, that shit translates over nicely to defense use.  Bolts are no different, look at the Brits and the Mad Minute with the Enfield.  But none of it matters, because this isn’t about mass shootings, this is about controlling the individual.  The judge correctly admits you’d basically have to turn the US into North Korea in order to stop attacks like this, then turns around  in the NEXT PARAGRAPH and says,

Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don’t let people who already have them keep them. Don’t let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don’t care whether it’s called gun control or a gun ban. I’m for it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!  Fucking really, dude?  You’re going to confiscate the probably now 100s of millions, possibly billions+ “high capacity” mags floating around this country?  And do so without massive bloodshed?  Fucking LOL, dude, real life is not the courtroom.  People are NOT going to give up their eeeeeevil guns or eeeeeeeevill magazines peacefully, and this isn’t a bailiff taking a loudmouth or prisoner out of the courtroom to be held in contempt or off to prison, this is the street, you jackass.

Numbnuts here thinks he’s conservative, and he’s not.  A Republican perhaps, but you’re not one of us, judge, you’re a statist no different then the left, you’re perhaps not as noxious as the average leftist, but you’re one of them.  You’ve presented no logical argument for the ban and confiscation of “hi-cap” magazines, it’s all emotion borne out of discomfort.  Therefore, not a conservative case, this is a self-proclaimed conservative making a liberal case for bullshit bans.  You know and I know the reason for ARs and AKs, it is about keeping the STATE in check, ours or others.  It always has been, and always will be, about keeping governments under control, and resisting them when they do go off the rails, so that millions of us don’t end up in Gulags.

But such a conversation is political only to those who are ideologically predisposed to see regulation of any kind as the creep of tyranny.

You know, actual conservatives and libertarians.

  1. MikeD says:

    One of the pro 2nd Amendment liberals I know (I’ve talked about him before… he’s the one who thinks he’s a Goldwater Conservative even though he supports everything Obama says down the line… but apparently except this) asked a question on his facebook if anyone could give him a clear LEGAL definition of what an “assault rifle” was. Now, given that most of his friends are liberals, they couldn’t but some linked to “Bushmaster” (when they actually meant AR-15, but whatever). He then reasonably said, “ok, what’s the difference between that and my .308 semi-automatic hunting rifle?” And they’re all, ‘wtf… assault rifel!!!’ And then they get pissed at him because he’s not “accepting their answer.

    Now, dude’s a lawyer. He’s looking to see, if you were going to write a law banning assault rifles, how you would word it to distinguish between those and everyday semi-autos. And none of these people could. One chimed in about the 94 ban, and that’s when I jumped in. In short I said this:

    This is an AR-15 that was banned by the 94 law:

    It’s a .223, gas-operated, rotating bolt semi-automatic rifle fed by a detachable magazine.

    This is a Saiga .223 that WOULDN’T have been banned:

    It too, is a .223, gas-operated, rotating bold semi-automatic rifle fed by a detachable magazine.

    Functionally, there is zero difference between those two rifles. But because the one up top has a SCARY pistol grip and adjustable shoulder stock, it’s an “assault rifle” but the Saiga isn’t.

    Strangely enough, they quit yammering about it.

  2. Jim Scrummy says:

    I had, surprisingly a calm rational debate with some libtard. Couldn’t define the difference between a semi-automatic vs an evil AW. Then pointed out using gubmint stats collect by the statist FBI that long gun murders (in this case I am using both shotguns and rifles), in the USA were less than 700 total for 2011. Knives and cutting instruments accounted for about 1900 murders in the USA. Let’s ban knives so we can all eat mush! Eff that a-hole judge.

  3. Nicole says:

    They just don’t get that the zero-gun-world option is completely impossible. The knowledge of how to manufacture guns and ammo is in the world and it can’t be unlearned, no matter how much they may wish it otherwise.

  4. veeshir says:

    While we wait for my comment in moderation (banned at the blog where I’m a cob?), let’s see it anyway without the links.
    My favorite bit is the part where, after the benevolent and all powerful gov’t takes my property because i can’t be trusted with it, he says it’s not tyranny.
    You know, because everybody who matters agrees.
    Small consolation that tools like that would go to camps while I would be “shot while trying to escape” in his utopia.

    That bit perfectly encapsulates my contempt, derision and outright disdain for our intellectual, moral, philosophical and political betters.

    They’re still having a ‘debate’ over an issue that the American People consider closed. (

    Seriously, they’re all furrowing their brows and trying to figure out to explain to the bumpkins that the state really needs to take their guns.
    And it’s not just the fucking Democrats, it’s establishment Republicans like this tool and you know Boehner wishes he could tell us mouthbreathing, windowlickers what he really thinks.

    They know better than we. We’re just too dim to be trusted with running our own lives and they’re at the point where much more benevolent control would provoke a response from the people just too stupid to understand life so it’s past time to get us defensele..ummmmm…. safe.

    Between that and watching the fucking bullshit fucking fiscal fucking cliff Kabuki (it’s not Kabuki, Kabuki is entertaining) fucking bullshit where they’re talking about maybe getting new seat covers before they decide which conference room they should use to decide who should be in charge of the committee for deciding which area to start re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic I can’t watch any news show for more than 7.3 seconds.

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